這樣有阻卻違法嗎? - 法律

By Lily
at 2009-08-08T00:10
at 2009-08-08T00:10
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推 Feuerbach:我贊同這種說法 不用到推測承諾 難道一塊玻璃車窗 08/07 00:07
→ Feuerbach:的價值大於一條狗之生命 車窗應該沒那麼貴巴? XD 08/07 00:08
推 ikai99:我也贊同這種說法~ 狗的價值應該是比玻璃來的高的 08/07 00:09
推 khch:我是認為兩者接在[財產法益]位階 並沒有"大於" 故有失衡@@" 08/07 00:36
→ khch:似乎不能用道德角度來談狗生命的價值... 08/07 00:40
→ khch:在法律上 狗就是[財產法益]呀@@" 08/07 00:40
推 khch:請問O大是以[財產法益中市價高低]做衡平考量嗎? 08/07 00:49
不知道你是否注意到,我的文章內容充滿了「如果」。
換句話說,我只是希望參與討論的板友們,能夠依序檢驗各個要件,
至於在各個要件的認定上,每個人可能都有不同見解,甚至這也會扯到
案例事實到底怎麼設定,很難說一定有標準答案。
學說上多認為緊急避難的衡平性要求,必須是「保護優越利益」,
(參考林山田刑總),而在「財產vs財產」的案例中,交易價值應該不是唯一
的考量基準。林山田的書上也舉了個畫家搶救自己畫作的例子,
並指出系爭財物對於當事人的特殊意義,也會影響優越利益的判斷。
所以說,交易價值不是我的考量重點,也不會是唯一的客觀標準。
推 a00503330:我是覺得有可能會構成避難過當,除非狗被困了很久,已經很 08/07 00:55
→ a00503330:痛苦快窒息,如果只是被關進去一下下,應該可以打給主人 08/07 00:57
→ a00503330:用其他的方式,不是說不能用緊急避難~ 08/07 00:57
那就要看案例事實怎麼設定了。你這裡講的是「必要性」的問題,
也就是法條上所稱「出於不得已」。然而,當行為人已經付出合理的努力
去聯絡車主,卻還是無法找到人時,此際,聯絡車主似乎不能被評價為一個
有效的手段,而可能要考慮其他具有侵害性的手段,例如推文中有人提到的
找鎖匠開車門。當然,隨著時間經過,狗的生命越來越危急時,我們對於行為人
應該謹慎行事的期待,也會隨之降低。如果行為人不夠「聰明」,沒有早一點
想到OR採用侵害更小的手段,而是拖到緊要關頭才採取有侵害性的避難行為,
應該還是可以主張緊急避難(不過會有上述衡平性的爭議),至少可以阻卻
故意犯罪的成立,而毀損罪不處罰過失犯,回歸民事賠償處理,這樣的結果
應該還算OK吧。
當然無論如何,只要能夠這樣細緻地討論,就是好事。
→ khch:我現在有疑問的是...可以在財產法益中 用市價區別高低嗎? 08/07 01:00
同上第一段。
→ Eventis:打破車窗只是一個例示,原文除了毀物,還有推打人(輕傷),故 08/07 01:40
→ Eventis:要包山包海一併適用,緊急避難並不能完全解決原問. 08/07 01:44
然而在思考的流程上,還是優先考慮法定阻卻違法事由,會比較妥當。
至於透過「依法令之行為」引援其他法律規範,除非該法律規範明文授權
系爭行為人可以採取侵害性行為(例如刑事訴訟法關於現行犯人人皆得逮捕
的規定),否則不宜逕行擴張解釋,把用於規範當事人間「賠償」「利益返還」
等權利義務關係的無因管理制度,引為阻卻違法事由。
最後,關於推測承諾,正因為它是高度不確定性的概念,所以使用上
必須非常謹慎,從實務的角度來講,恐怕還是先考慮法定阻卻違法事由的
解釋適用,會比較妥當一點。
→ Eventis:不過說一塊玻璃跟狗的生命在量差上的比較,既然說是價值評 08/07 01:45
→ Eventis:問題,那麼,就沒有必然性的高低.更何況就必要性來說,以狗狗 08/07 01:46
→ Eventis:困車中的案例,持續時間約有12小時,就最小侵害的角度來看, 08/07 01:50
→ Eventis:仍有諸如請來鎖匠用非破壞性的方式打開車門的可能,所以是 08/07 01:51
→ Eventis:不是一定可以緊急避難來阻卻違法,我個人是存疑. 08/07 01:52
所以我也刻意語帶保留。
然而如上所述,到了緊要關頭時,還是要檢驗緊急避難。
因為所謂必要性的考量,是以行為時的當下為準,至於行為人不夠聰明,
沒有早點想到更好的辦法,那就讓他賠償一塊玻璃吧。
相較於自己招致的危難,如果符合優越利益原則,還是可以主張緊急避難
(教科書上常見的例子是疏於保養車輛,緊要關頭時到底要撞一群學童還是
要撞路邊車輛的問題),那麼,只是因為「不夠聰明」而拖延到最後關頭
必須採取有侵害性的避難行為,應該更可以主張緊急避難才對。
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