在澳洲工作(按摩)被控告對12歲少年性騷擾 - 法律

By Jake
at 2017-01-11T23:46
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我弟被警察起訴了...
請了一位老外律師
本週五出庭會將他保釋出來(保釋金2萬澳幣)
上一級法院下次開庭要9~12個月
就因為一個小孩沒有證據的指控
還有一個警察沒有證據的起訴
我們就要付出近10000澳幣的律師費外加我弟9~12個月的歲月....
全家人現在都在四處借錢湊保釋金跟律師費...
※ 編輯: spencer222 (118.170.210.76), 01/11/2017 23:47:03
→ jimmy8069: 請外交部協助看看 01/11 23:48
→ spencer222: 大使館只有提供這位律師聯絡方式給我們 01/11 23:58
→ spencer222: 我真的不知道 我們繳稅在養這些人幹嘛 01/11 23:58
→ spencer222: 聽說還有另個case,也是按摩,被誣告後來判無罪 01/11 23:59
→ spencer222: 但等到開庭判無罪時,他已經被關1年了 01/12 00:00
→ spencer222: 人失去一年自由,身心靈所受的影響,要怎麼彌補 01/12 00:00
→ spencer222: 全家人因為這件事,這幾天一直吃不好睡不好 01/12 00:02
→ dreamsletter: 澳洲的刑事訴訟程序有這麼狂? 然後有一招你可以試 01/12 00:05
→ dreamsletter: 試 叫你弟去找中國的大使館幫忙 身段放軟一點 雖然 01/12 00:05
→ dreamsletter: 強國很____ 但他們才能給你們比較完整的資源 01/12 00:05
→ spencer222: 也許吧...在這一刻,我覺得身為台灣人挺倒楣的 01/12 00:11
→ saltlake: 原波期待外交部做啥? 幫你選律師? 你確定? 官司打輸了 01/12 00:13
→ saltlake: 是不是順便怪外交部選的律師無能頭上? 還是外交部要出面 01/12 00:13
→ saltlake: 干涉外國司法程序? 還是提供交通工具讓原波親戚逃出那個 01/12 00:14
→ saltlake: "可怕的"國家? 哪個國家提供這種"服務"? 01/12 00:14
推 milk7054: 境外沒有三年以上有期徒刑,不適用臺灣的刑法... 01/12 00:15
→ milk7054: 猥褻14歲以下,最輕本刑6個月以上... 01/12 00:16
→ milk7054: 臺灣跟澳大利亞似乎也沒邦交 01/12 00:17
→ spencer222: 澳大利亞法律,沒有直接證據證明你沒犯法 01/12 00:19
→ spencer222: 在公訴罪上,就是直接起訴後關起來 01/12 00:20
→ spencer222: 然後關個9~12個月,終於開庭證據不足不起訴 01/12 00:22
→ spencer222: 然後無罪釋放,什麼精神損失都沒有 01/12 00:22
→ spencer222: 1/5簽證滿要回台灣,1/4去警局說明就被關起來 01/12 00:23
→ spencer222: 我弟如果真的有做這種事,他大不了1/5直接飛回來就好 01/12 00:24
→ spencer222: 遇上了真的只能自認倒楣.... 01/12 00:25
→ a9301040: 出國才知道台灣好 01/12 00:54
→ alawyer: 10000澳幣律師費?!?!可見台灣律師有多廉價... 01/12 00:55
→ darkMood: 這就是到外國打工的風險,在台灣根本就不用怕.......... 01/12 01:11
→ jimmy8069: 新聞標題:出國打工度假,賺了錢確賠了自由,這值得讓 01/12 01:14
→ jimmy8069: 很多跟風借鏡 01/12 01:14
噓 yesohya: 我可不希望我繳稅是要幫你付律師費更別說保釋金 01/12 01:15
→ jimmy8069: 以前在英國讀書,都是強國留學生幫忙,這時是真的需要 01/12 01:16
→ jimmy8069: 國家強大背景 01/12 01:16
→ saltlake: 樓上是被國國個人幫忙還是政府幫忙? 幫啥忙? 01/12 01:34
噓 Ichbinyy: 能體諒你因弟弟心急,但沒必要順便把外交人員順便婊一頓 01/12 01:59
→ Ichbinyy: 台灣外交部應該感到抱歉沒辦法幫你干預他國司法嗎:( 01/12 02:00
→ Ichbinyy: 不去說明直接飛回來的先決條件是沒有在機場被攔下來... 01/12 02:02
→ Ichbinyy: 很好奇你是怎麼得到目前令弟的狀況資訊的... 01/12 02:06
→ spencer222: 沒要外交部幫出律師費 保釋金 01/12 08:02
→ spencer222: 整個資訊是靠我移民在澳洲的表哥處理的 01/12 08:03
→ spencer222: 今天要是我表哥不在澳洲 冤獄就有得坐了 01/12 08:04
→ spencer222: 大使館連幫你查這件事資訊都不願意 只丟了一句 台灣 01/12 08:06
→ spencer222: 跟澳洲無邦交 無法插手管喔 01/12 08:06
→ spencer222: 我不知道查這件事資訊 算不算干預司法? 01/12 08:07
→ spencer222: 我相信這不是第一次 也不會是最後一次 台灣人自己在 01/12 08:10
→ spencer222: 國外最好小心點 01/12 08:10
→ saltlake: 原波要外交部查甚麼? 相關案情本來就只有當事人律師啥的 01/12 08:39
→ saltlake: 可查 個人隱私沒聽過? 01/12 08:40
→ saltlake: 至於查相關法條啥的 老大! 你們自己聘的律師就是收錢幹 01/12 08:41
→ saltlake: 這檔子事情的 蒐集相關法條和各種有利訴訟的資料是專業 01/12 08:41
→ saltlake: 工作 要專業訓練跟費用的 自己的私人行為產生的訴訟 01/12 08:42
→ saltlake: 請自己花錢去打! 01/12 08:42
→ saltlake: 又不是因為為國家執行公務引起的 憑啥國家出錢? 01/12 08:43
→ saltlake: 原波自己親戚在澳洲幫某公司工作 那麼這類訴訟甚至可能 01/12 08:43
→ saltlake: 燒到該公司身上 你啊的怎麼不去"要求"該公司"幫忙"? 01/12 08:44
→ Fireya: 看一看覺得你搞錯了 警察無權起訴 應該是把筆錄等資料移送 01/12 09:35
→ Fireya: 地檢署 除非太扯被當場戳破的誣告 像是報案搶劫調監視器看 01/12 09:36
→ Fireya: 卻完全沒有 證據不足的話警察還是會移送 不是警察起訴你弟 01/12 09:39
→ Fireya: 不移送就是吃案 另外澳洲應該也有偵查不公開吧?要查什麼? 01/12 09:44
噓 justicesword: 喔,啊你一年繳多少稅?說來聽聽啊。 01/12 12:41
→ justicesword: 動不動就在扯繳稅 01/12 12:42
噓 justicesword: 不想當國民,移民啊,有人阻止你? 01/12 12:45
→ Ichbinyy: 反正都怪別人比快,你要不要先查查看駐外單位的業務範 01/12 12:57
→ Ichbinyy: 圍?幫你們查資訊本來就不是業務範圍了...也很明確跟你 01/12 12:59
→ Ichbinyy: 官方身分沒立場於澳洲單位交涉了...... 01/12 13:00
→ Ichbinyy: 任何國家的國民身在「國外」本來就要特別注意了。你表 01/12 13:01
→ Ichbinyy: 哥不在沒辦法處理???你弟在警局有權可以聯絡駐外單 01/12 13:02
→ Ichbinyy: 位找律師跟翻譯的好嗎?還是你假設他連這些也不懂? 01/12 13:03
→ Ichbinyy: 那你們還敢讓他出國還從事按摩這種具相當風險的職業? 01/12 13:03
→ Ichbinyy: 難到是臺灣政府逼他出國逼他被告的嗎.......這整件事聽 01/12 13:05
→ Ichbinyy: 其實很不可思議,有考慮找個懂澳洲法律的臺灣人/律師諮 01/12 13:06
→ Ichbinyy: 詢一下嗎?你們現在也都只是聽轉述但不知道實際運轉過程 01/12 13:07
→ Ichbinyy: 吧。 另外,給F大xD,澳洲警察似乎可以起訴>< 01/12 13:09
→ Fireya: 我查了 那好像也是要警察「檢察官」 01/12 13:32
→ maniaque: 出國打黑工,沒繳稅,沒工作簽證,還這麼大聲 01/12 13:32
→ maniaque: 怎自己沒先檢討,反倒檢討別人怪罪別人? 01/12 13:33
→ Fireya: (由警察檢察官執行)、交通管制以及法庭輕微犯罪開庭紀錄 01/12 13:34
→ maniaque: 找大陸使館? 那你支持一中嗎?? 01/12 13:35
→ maniaque: 敢出國搞這些有的沒有的,卻沒有承擔風險的肩膀 01/12 13:36
→ jimmy8069: 如果是利用強國叫支持一中?? 這有點極端阿... 01/12 14:01
→ maniaque: 樓上腦筋要清楚一點好嗎? 01/12 14:02
→ maniaque: 為何中國大陸要幫助一個 分裂國土 的人?? 01/12 14:03
→ maniaque: 人家出手相救,不是基於 兩岸同屬一中 ??? 01/12 14:03
→ maniaque: 這就是國際現實面 01/12 14:04
→ Ichbinyy: 所以應該也是警察的一種嗎?當初讀英美法沒讀過這個, 01/12 15:45
→ Ichbinyy: 感覺好有趣!!! 01/12 15:45
→ Fireya: 英美法大概都在討論案例 哪會講這種小事? 01/12 16:07
→ spencer222: 有簽證 白工 中醫按摩 怎麼一堆人各種臆測當事實 01/12 22:00
→ spencer222: 發這文是要大家在澳洲要注意一點 酸來酸去就免了 01/12 22:01
→ spencer222: 在澳洲公訴罪在罪證不足的情況下 警方依然可以直接起 01/12 22:03
→ spencer222: 訴 然後要排隊9~12個月才開庭審理 01/12 22:03
→ spencer222: 有些人不食人間煙火 不知道有75%的年輕人在台領著低 01/12 22:05
→ spencer222: 於3萬的月薪 去澳洲想多賺點錢 做的也是白工 中醫按 01/12 22:05
→ spencer222: 摩,人家好手好腳賺錢,我不懂酸人家出國搞些有得沒得 01/12 22:05
→ spencer222: 什麼意思 01/12 22:05
→ spencer222: Fire大Ich大說的我會再去研究 01/12 22:08
→ depravity: "被害人說詞"本身是證據(證人證詞)證據力如何當然是上 01/12 22:36
→ depravity: 法庭決定,不是妳我警察等等決定 01/12 22:36
→ saltlake: 所以呢? 正當去外國打工還是私人行為 出了事情憑啥要求 01/12 23:25
→ saltlake: 國家義務協助這個那個? 何況有些要求的協助根本是亂來 01/12 23:26
→ saltlake: 貼在這邊確實給了版眾一些資訊 版眾回應也讓原波免費 01/12 23:27
→ saltlake: 學到有用的資訊 這裡不欠你的 01/12 23:27
推 jaannddyy: 澳洲法治也不至於這麼差吧,既然有律師了,就像他請益 01/14 01:17
→ jaannddyy: 吧,問這群人做什麼? 01/14 01:17
→ jaannddyy: 有用的資訊,說的好像是處理澳洲刑事實務專家 01/14 01:18
→ jaannddyy: 還好啦,你家是低收嗎?這點錢還湊的出來吧?先把人搞 01/14 01:20
→ jaannddyy: 出來了,整件事結束了再來研究怎麼向媒體抱怨吧 01/14 01:20
噓 T50: 除非是國家安排的勞務輸出。或是明顯的迫害我國公民 01/20 02:39
→ T50: 否則外交單位是不管的。還真以為強國有比較強?強國人都不信 01/20 02:40
噓 depravity: 看看韓國對台灣計程車事件當下的處理 01/21 04:24
→ depravity: 我們的外交人員還給妳律師電話算很好了 XD 01/21 04:24
→ Seven67: 每年多少人去澳洲當台籍勞工 就剛好你弟發生 事情不單 01/22 13:39
→ Seven67: 純 01/22 13:39
推 spirit119: 補血 01/28 02:11
推 mingrset: 我不懂人家家人都這麼心急了你們還在那邊酸人家幹嘛 奇 01/29 17:05
推 mingrset: 怪欸 01/29 17:05
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at 2017-01-11T11:43
at 2017-01-11T11:43